we have an older very faithfull elder body and whenever they talk about armegeddon or the end of this system of thiings, they always use "very near, close, soon, etc".
well on the stage one elder when talking about the great tribuation this week , he said "possibly in our lifetime" !!!
that really caught my attention and even my wife's too!
"it became obvious that the F&DS was wrong about it's understanding of "the generation", thus they had to seek out new understanding from Jehovah their a$sholes."
A lot of JW's in my country have been seeking new light in such places! http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/humour/249169/1/Kingdom-Hall-pranks-or-persecution
i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..
Hi Nathan!
I did not see what happened in that oompa-thread, i was not so active here then. But I am happy to se that you are back and that you are giving Simon your handshake.
the aawa website jwactivists is down for repairs or whatever, so here is my prediction of what it will be when it comes up:.
* the site will have removed all mention of jwn.
* the site will have revised their own history.. * the site will have a registry that will be contingent on confirmation of identity in relation to the wts, but will also limit the function and communication of naysayers of john cedars' only working organization on earth.. * privacy will not be addressed.
I think it might be more severe than that. Maybe some more people of the board have abandaned ship? Maybe there are problems with the Presidents identity?
48 hours is a very long time keeping a site down.
I think this is tragic, and I do pity Juan Viejo...I hope he is not in to legal trouble.
is the january 3, 2013 letter to the body of elders regarding the fact that a "packet of legal material is available to assist publishers who are involved in lawsuits over child custody and visitation matters in which our religion is under attack" still up on the information board?
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if so.......can anyone get a picture of it up there on the information board?
I think they are trying to keep that packet very secret!
Have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6YSsA2dJ_U
An elder lying in cort about the packet.
i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..
CAliber: No, I am not questioning Simon. I was just surprised that she was banned.
Mrs Jones! Happy to hear that she is fine!
i just learned that an 11 year old kid is taking the questions for baptism.
as soon as his father finished tellig me this, i told him that he should make his son wait, but he responded that he couldn't go against jehovah' spirit.
i gave the guy a break because he is the uneducated and naive immigrant who puts his heart, not his mind, into the religion.
To be honest....I think you are to confrontative. Try to get him to express what he feels and thinks. Now he will probably just give you the societys answers.
You could ask him in a careful way if he really thinks it's OK disfellowshipping a 12-13 years old boy/girl?
i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..
"When I started reading here, I didn't know who Palmtree67 was. Her life was HARD. Her relatives, weird. I could relate. lol I read her old posts, she has been through he!!.
I found her honest, caring, sharing and funny. I never read or saw anything that she wrote, that wasn't one of those things.
To make a long story short, I found out, that I know her. I was at her first wedding. Her parents, especially her mom, was making fun of her in front of everybody, at her own wedding reception! It was unbelievable! I had always wondered, what happened to that sweet child. Then I joined up here. Not knowing anyone. But at about the time I realized who Palmtree67 was, she didn't post anymore. I can't imagine the hurt for someone like her, with all she has been through, to be banned from this site. It rather turned my stomach, when I realized if it could happen to Palmtree67, it could happen even to me.
Can you find it in your heart, to allow my little friend, Palmtree67, back into the "fold"? She is of our kind. She is a help and I am sure many have missed her."
Oh, I didn't know she was banned. I saw her with the forum member TEC in a picture in a photo-thread. I think they both are nice women.
I once was a bit rude to the lady TEC, but we cleared it out. I am happy that I wasn't banned!
Anyway, I am happy that I am not a moderator here......moderating can be very hard sometimes.
I hope everything is fine with Palmtree.
1 - reconsider your existence - there might be a reason why the most effective resources to date have been solo efforts.
2 - recognize that even well-intentioned organizations will firstly seek self-preservation.
3 - be aware that egos and emotional stupidity have torn apart much grander edifices than aawa.
Some interesting point.
Yes, I think the most important is to reach JW's with doubts, or JW's that fell that they have a miserable life. An agressive organisation would probably scare those away.
Maybe forum like this is more effective. So let's be careful not to scare lurkers away. and let's not intimidate people that are still in.
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my wife and i are atheists, raised and living as jehovah's witnesses.
"And now kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has had intercourse with man by lying with a male. And preserve alive for yourselves all the little ones among the women who have not known the act of lying with a male.""
What's wrong with 32000 virgins? I think Mose and his buddies enjoyed themselves!I just wonder if Mose himself inspected the hymen of all those virgins!
In that case he had a lot to do!
i just learned that an 11 year old kid is taking the questions for baptism.
as soon as his father finished tellig me this, i told him that he should make his son wait, but he responded that he couldn't go against jehovah' spirit.
i gave the guy a break because he is the uneducated and naive immigrant who puts his heart, not his mind, into the religion.
"GALATIANS 6:4, 5 4 But let each one prove what his own work is, and then he will have cause for exultation in regard to himself alone, and not in comparison with the other person. 5 For each one will carry his own load.
Would you have us choose for him?"
Hmmm. the WTS makes a lot of choices for it's people, e g in areas of education, medical treatments etc.......that's just hypocrite.
Is this elder 100% sure that it's not the parents choise?
